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Post by finaddict on Jan 6, 2009 18:49:40 GMT -5
Your mum is a wise woman and I believe her to be correct in her assessment.
That was one thing that was so accurate in SVU. A dectective who was a married father of four who had trouble letting go of the job and opening up to his wife and kids with problems.
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Post by benstabler on Jan 7, 2009 6:15:34 GMT -5
I agree with that!
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Post by munchaddict on Jan 7, 2009 16:18:57 GMT -5
Tis where I get my wisdom.
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Post by almeda on Jan 8, 2009 5:44:09 GMT -5
That the detectives in Law and Order:SVU have their share of problems is real. Who wants our detectives to be perfect all the time? Munchaddict, you have the characteristics of a Third Culture Kid in that you've moved around quite alot, you're a preacher's kid and an army brat. Two and a half years ago, I wrote an article about Third Culture Kids, which was going to get published in a local magazine, but somehow didn't, in the process. One doesn't necessarily have to live overseas to be a Third Culture Kid, by the way.
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Post by finaddict on Jan 8, 2009 7:06:51 GMT -5
I agree Almeda, we aren't looking for perfection in our detectives. Just reality. And in reality Dets. having an affair with their partners spells disaster in most cases.
I would love to read that article, Almeda.
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Post by munchaddict on Jan 9, 2009 14:58:27 GMT -5
I'm not expecting them to be perfect at all. Each one of them have their how quarks and issues that any other person would have. My father was in the army, but we never went overseas as he wished to not do that. I was an army brat from the day I was born to when I was 7. Mum's been doing the ministry gig since then, now that I'm 20. I'd love to see your article by the way. It bugs me that people expect certain "groups" of people to be perfect because of what they do as a job. I am nowhere near perfect when being around the people on Sundays. Yes, I keep good manners, watch the nursery younglings and very polite to the older folks (no matter how bitter they can be to me...), but I have made my mistakes in front of them. 99% of them shrug it off and say "don't worry about it" while others make a verbal complaint about it. Well, sorry if I'm not as lady like as you think I should be. I rough play with my brother, I sit on counters, I prefer to wrestle dog at 70 pound dog to get his nails clipped, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty, I have my share of dirty jokes and I don't like wearing dresses. I'm not perfect and no one should expect me to be perfect. It's a hard life trying to find yourself in the world and being the eldest daughter of a minister. They don't have book on how to do those two things at once, so guess I have to do it myself.
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Post by finaddict on Jan 9, 2009 19:33:37 GMT -5
I would not want to have been a PK or a Det.'s kids.
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Post by benstabler on Jan 10, 2009 0:07:06 GMT -5
I think you bring up a good point munchaddict. I am not a church going person but being brought up in that setting I would see how people would expect you to be a certain way. My mother in law is hung up on the church on certain things but she can be SUCH the wosrst person at times. I always live by the "do unto others as you want done unto you" in my life. I am far from perfect but I think I am a good person and I don't need religion to make me feel better, I feel pretty darn good about ME! And I think you should too. I don't know you well but I think I know enough to know you are a decent person and well heck, you're still a young person and we are all still trying to find ourselves at that age!
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Post by finaddict on Jan 10, 2009 10:20:15 GMT -5
Good point, benstabler. I think this is why I always enjoyed the Stabler family dynamic. They had strong Irish/Catholic ties but were also normal in that they tried their best to maintain a do unto others persona. It in the early seasons, was an accurate portrayal of family life in a normal Detective home. The whole family dynamic was shaped by Elliot's career.
The kids were supposed to reflect the father's values but when they didn't Elliot stepped into make things go away in the DUI incident. Another accurate portrayal, IMO.
To remove that dynamic via divorce was sad. Kathy and El getting back together was a dream come true.
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Post by munchaddict on Jan 10, 2009 21:05:47 GMT -5
I'm not much of a church person in my mind, but I still have to make appearances to the older folks to keep them nice and quiet. Otherwise they would wonder who that person, living in the house. If I have kids, I don't want to put that stress that I deal with onto them. I think Elliot just needs to take some time away from work and spend time with the family. Go on a vacation or something like that to get away from the stress and get to know the kids more.
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Post by finaddict on Jan 11, 2009 9:24:14 GMT -5
I agree. There have been 10 seasons of unresolved issues with him and his family.
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Post by munchaddict on Jan 11, 2009 18:37:41 GMT -5
Go to the beach. Get some sun or something.
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Post by finaddict on Jan 12, 2009 22:29:22 GMT -5
I am hoping that before the show goes off the air that these issues could be resolved
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Post by benstabler on Jan 13, 2009 2:22:14 GMT -5
I don't know that we will ever see the issues resolved, just like in real life but back to the "normal" American family would be nice!
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Post by finaddict on Jan 13, 2009 6:45:19 GMT -5
I hear ya on that. I contend that the last 3 seasons of SVU have been poorly written and the characters of Liv and El have suffered.
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